Experts say whoever brought down MH17 had extensive training, experts says
'Unknown groups', some thought to be miners, militants and fireman according to reporters at the scene, are using body bags and removing victims of the plane crash to an unknown location.
Why the MH17 crash site may make sending victims home harder. Severe damage to bodies, looting and decomposition prolonged by the disorganised air crash area could mean it takes weeks before the victims are identified and returned home, according to a forensic expert.
Foreign Minister Julie Bishop is en route to New York to lead Australia's campaign at the UN Security Council for an independent international investigation.
Total destruction: wreckage from Malaysia Airlines MH17.AFP
1.37pm on Jul 20, 2014
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Conspiracy theories have always followed in the shadows of major tragedies, but the web seems to make all that detective work so much easier.
A world power shot the plane down to start World War III.
A major world power shot the plane down to distract from Gaza/the border crisis/the “World Currency Reset”/the next Snowden release/fill-in-the-blank.
A major world power shot the plane down to cover up the man-made origins of HIV/AIDS.
Ukraine shot the plane down to kill Vladimir Putin.
The plane was not shot down at all.
In fact, the plane never even took off!
MH17 is actually MH 370.
The Illuminati did it.
Conspiracy theorists have a field day.
1.04pm on Jul 20, 2014
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Prime Minister Tony Abbott, Opposition leader Bill Shorten, NSW Premier Mike Baird and Governor-General Peter Cosgrove at the remembrance mass at St Mary's Catholic Cathedral in Sydney for a special remembrance mass, reports AAP.
"The downing of MH17 was not an innocent accident, it was the outcome of a trail of human evil," Sydney Bishop Peter Comensoli told the packed cathedral.
Bishop Comensoli delivered a powerful homily in which he referred to the "blame and buck-passing" strategy of those believed to be responsible.
"Evil will try to hide, obfuscate, deny," he told the congregation.
"But by the light of day the true picture will be seen."
Ukrainian Community placing a reef of flowers and black ribbons at the Mary MacKillop Memorial, St Mary Cathedral in Sydney.Fiona Morris
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12.16pm on Jul 20, 2014
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Whoever fired the surface-to-air missile that brought down the Malaysia Airlines plane would have needed extensive training to execute the mission, according to military experts.
Taking down flight MH17, travelling about 965km/h at an altitude of 33,000 feet (10,060 metres), required vastly more expertise than, say, firing a shoulder-braced rocket-propelled grenade at a slow-moving helicopter.
A crew of at least four would have been needed to accurately fire the truck-mounted Russian-made SA-11 missile, also known as a Buk missile system.
"You've got to have people who are technically competent," said retired US Army Major General Stephen V. Reeves, who served as an intelligence officer in Western Europe.
11.58am on Jul 20, 2014
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Opposition leader Bill Shorten will fly out to the United States this afternoon for discussions about the MH17 disaster with leaders and officials including US Vice President Joe Biden, Deputy Secretary of State William Burns and President Obama's national security advisers.
Opposition Leader Bill Shorten.Alex Ellinghausen
11.53am on Jul 20, 2014
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A well-loved young man with a selfless devotion to his church has been identified as the fifth NSW victim of the MH17 plane disaster.
The parents of Victor Oreshkin, from Sydney, had gone to the airport to meet their son on Friday morning but he never walked through the arrivals hall.
Instead they received a shattering call from the Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade (DFAT), a friend has told AAP.
Mr Oreshkin, believed to be in his 30s, had been on a five-week holiday in Europe when the MH17 flight he was on was shot down by pro-Russian separatists over Ukraine.
Victor Oreshkin, according to a posting on his Facebook site.
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11.50am on Jul 20, 2014
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Victorian Premier Denis Napthine has backed his Queensland counterpart’s call that Russian President Vladimir Putin not be welcome at the G20 conference in Australia if he does not cooperate with investigations into the MH17 attack.
Dr Napthine also took a swipe at the United Nations during an interview with 3AW, urging them to take action.
“The United Nations needs to show some backbone for a change and actually do something to make sure that this is properly investigated and actions taken against perpetrators and those people who have assisted and helped those perpetrators,’’ Dr Napthine said.
Queensland Premier Campbell Newman said Mr Putin would not be welcome in his state for November's G20 summit in Brisbane unless he allowed an independent inquiry into the MH17 disaster.
11.13am on Jul 20, 2014
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The International AIDS Conference starts today in Melbourne.
World-renowned AIDS researcher Joep Lange, 60, had been flying to Melbourne to attend the 20th International AIDS Conference when MH17 was shot down during the ongoing conflict between Ukraine and Russia.
Organisers on Saturday confirmed the names of six delegates on the flight, with International AIDS Society president Françoise Barré-Sinoussi saying the extent of their loss was ‘‘hard to comprehend or express.’’
Also among the confirmed dead are activists Lucie van Mens and Maria Adriana de Schutter from AIDS Action Europe, along with Pim de Kuijer, a lobbyist for Stop AIDS Now and Glenn Thomas, a media advisor for the World Health Organisation.
"We can't let our emotions cloud our judgment but nevertheless these are wrenching times and there would hardly be an Australian who hasn't been emotionally touched by what we've seen, what we've felt over the last 48 hours or so," he said.
"You look at the faces of the dead and they're your neighbours, they're your friends, they could be your kids because let's face it, we are a people who like to travel and my own daughters flew on MH17 some months ago on their way home from Europe. So this is a tragedy which touches us deeply."
Mr Abbott confirmed that he has not spoken to Russian President Vladimir Putin and that Russia's foreign minister has still not accepted Foreign Minister Julie Bishop's request to speak to him on the telephone.
"I made crystal clear my concerns and dissatisfaction with the way this has been handled," he said.
"Russian-controlled territory, Russian-backed rebels, quite likely a Russian-supplied weapon: Russia can't wash its hands of this."